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Posted 17 August 2017 - 04:57 PM

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View PostMajor Hoople, on 17 August 2017 - 02:23 PM, said:

No surprises. Furthering the jihad is their job, after all. Everybody needs an identity, if the sense of American identity is bleached out, why not Sharia?



Proving once again what a great idea it was to import millions of culturally backward and hostile savages to the First World to tell us how we ought to run the best civilization in the history of mankind.

They should call for the removal of other well known symbols of White Supremacy, skyscrapers.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 06:18 PM

View PostColonel Poopy, on 17 August 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

They should call for the removal of other well known symbols of White Supremacy, skyscrapers.

I'm all in for removing monuments to slavery starting with this one.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:56 PM

Banning the soi-disant Resident Autistic Fact Checker seems a little harsh (was it for that post alone?); but I guess it's because we're now at war with the TRS/8ch crowd and martial law reigns on MPC. It's a publicly readable form after all.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:22 PM



I'll have to admit, I was really surprised by these results. 90% of Trump supporters, 86% of Republicans, 67% of white people, 62% overall, and 44% of black people (which is actually a plurality) support keeping the statues up. I never felt strongly about the confederate monuments one way or another and figured that arguing to keep them up was a lost cause. Instead, it looks like most people except for really strong democrats want to leave them up. These results are so far from what I'd expect that frankly I'd be very suspicious, were it not for the fact that this contradicts the narrative so hard. 67% of Latinos and a plurality of blacks think they should stay up!

I guess defending the statues isn't a total waste of time, so long as you don't poison the well by bringing Nazi flags when you do it.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:47 PM

View PostCannabaudes, on 17 August 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:



I'll have to admit, I was really surprised by these results. 90% of Trump supporters, 86% of Republicans, 67% of white people, 62% overall, and 44% of black people (which is actually a plurality) support keeping the statues up. I never felt strongly about the confederate monuments one way or another and figured that arguing to keep them up was a lost cause. Instead, it looks like most people except for really strong democrats want to leave them up. These results are so far from what I'd expect that frankly I'd be very suspicious, were it not for the fact that this contradicts the narrative so hard. 67% of Latinos and a plurality of blacks think they should stay up!

I guess defending the statues isn't a total waste of time, so long as you don't poison the well by bringing Nazi flags when you do it.

Almost surprised that PBS released the poll. They did their best to bury that shocking stat though, leading with the unsurprising result that 52% think Trump should've ass-raped the UTR leaders harder. (Hang on, Sessions is working on that right now.)

And after they've shut down every right-wing site, they're going to be that much more shocked when Trump wins in a stroll in 2020. At which point I genuinely expect a major spike in suicides (whites) and homicides (you know who).

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:55 PM

View PostCannabaudes, on 17 August 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:



I'll have to admit, I was really surprised by these results. 90% of Trump supporters, 86% of Republicans, 67% of white people, 62% overall, and 44% of black people (which is actually a plurality) support keeping the statues up. I never felt strongly about the confederate monuments one way or another and figured that arguing to keep them up was a lost cause. Instead, it looks like most people except for really strong democrats want to leave them up. These results are so far from what I'd expect that frankly I'd be very suspicious, were it not for the fact that this contradicts the narrative so hard. 67% of Latinos and a plurality of blacks think they should stay up!

I guess defending the statues isn't a total waste of time, so long as you don't poison the well by bringing Nazi flags when you do it.

The one thing that makes me pretty blackpill-proof, is despite all the dark powers aligned against us, I see evidence every day that most people aren't that far gone.  (I mean, really, remember, Trump won despite his rhetoric and against the biggest media blitz ever coordinated.) Truth is, most people aren't all that ideological unless they feel they have have to be due to threats or extreme social pressure.  The bad part is that they can be herded into bad ideas through social pressure.  The good part is, they can be herded right back, especially when they realize how screwed up the ideas are as concerns their own lives and families.
90% of the BS going on right now is confused and desperate social signalling.  That's why people like me, who have never really cared what others thought of us, are doing fine in this environment while others melt down daily.  Moderate, reasonable normies are checking out of the culture wars left and right.  But those who were truly committed to "eternal progress" really do feel hurt and threatened, even though they are neither and it all looks sad, shrill, and pathetic.  It's sad, but necessary.  They have to grow up sometime.

I try to be mature, and be nice to them.  One of my facebook friends, the father of a college friend, a reasonable man in less trying times, today posted on faceberg, a gigantic rant against "nazis", a call for people to be imprisoned for "hate speech" (yup, speech gulags, so tolerant and liberal) and for all gun owners to be formalized as a militia with government standards and lists involved. (It was clear he meant this in a punitive, hyper-regulatory, liberal Big Brother sort of way, not as a legitimate militia measure.)  I told him I loved him as a person and he should seek mental help instead of imitating Stalin.  He didn't like that.

Oh well.  I try to be nice.

Edited by Dr. Necessiter, 17 August 2017 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:22 PM

View PostIG-1488, on 17 August 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

Banning the soi-disant Resident Autistic Fact Checker seems a little harsh (was it for that post alone?); but I guess it's because we're now at war with the TRS/8ch crowd and martial law reigns on MPC. It's a publicly readable form after all.

It was a little harsh and I've been a little short of patience the past few days.  I'll probably unban him in a little while if someone reminds me.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:50 PM

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:54 PM

Disregarding leadership and optics, it took a lot of balls for people to show up to this thing and get pushed to the wolves by the state police, who didn't even look enthusiastic about the matter. Sooner rather than later someone is going to tie it all together and create something that will really send the elites into a tizzy, without all the Nazi/KKK bait.

How mad must the people that really run the country be? They were this close to a permanent majority. Now even basic bitch Tea Party constitutional conservatives are waking up to how things work. It's going to happen real soon, and I'll be real glad to be there. I only hope we can preserve some semblance of a sane country.

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Posted 17 August 2017 - 09:56 PM

Reminder that Pmans site is currently under heavy assault from forces more powerful than 1,000 Ashley Hutsells, so probably not a good time to test his patience with retarded posts.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:40 AM

View PostYet Another Aussie Shitpoaster, on 17 August 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

Reminder that Pmans site is currently under heavy assault from forces more powerful than 1,000 Ashley Hutsells, so probably not a good time to test his patience with retarded posts.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:20 AM

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Boston Antifa lumping cops and their supporters in with Nazis and WNs . They can't help themselves and will go after every normie symbol in the end . Now showing your support for Law Enforcement is on par with sporting a swastika .

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 08:09 AM

View PostNavalinfantry, on 18 August 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:


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Boston Antifa lumping cops and their supporters in with Nazis and WNs . They can't help themselves and will go after every normie symbol in the end . Now showing your support for Law Enforcement is on par with sporting a swastika .

Also, lol Proud Boys.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:22 AM

View PostPeak XOJane, on 18 August 2017 - 08:09 AM, said:

View PostNavalinfantry, on 18 August 2017 - 07:20 AM, said:


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Boston Antifa lumping cops and their supporters in with Nazis and WNs . They can't help themselves and will go after every normie symbol in the end . Now showing your support for Law Enforcement is on par with sporting a swastika .

Also, lol Proud Boys.

You know, for all of Gayvin's faults and his obvious personal degeneracy (drugs, porn, buttstuff), he's delivered a hell of a lot more on the visibility front than Spencer & Enoch.  People like Gayvin, Cernovich, Milo I can live with--and something they do which Spencer & Enoch definitely don't do is get the ear of liberals and relatively normal people.  Convincing someone like Dave Rubin that it's illiberal and dangerous to censor the right is worth about 100,000 times more to us than convincing some 20-year-old that Hitler did nothing wrong.  (Why?  Because Rubin can put heat on the CEO of Patreon.)  We need a lot more of the former, especially now.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:42 AM

I don't know if he's been mentioned here, but let's talk about one of Spencer's autistic E-Lieutenants, Nathan Gates, AKA TheBigKK. He was also partially responsible for the colossal shitshow that was Charlottesville. He was a writer for altright.com and the owner of the now defunct Altright.com discord, which was enormous (thousands of members). The shuttering of the Altright.com discord was relatively well-publicized. He was also an infamous owner of the major /pol/ discord (also thousands of members) before the people under him jewed him out of the server's ownership for being completely autistic on the original He Will Not Divide Us stream.

He is everything we should avoid.

This is him at the Rally, I believe following behind Spencer.

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Here's his twitter account:

https://twitter.com/thebigkk_?lang=en

Or at least one of them. His old account, @TheRealBigKK ( :lol: ) was apparently taken down.

WHO IS NATHAN?

Nathan, or the BigKK (it stands for The Big Kryptokroenen- we'll get to that in a moment) is one of the biggest unironic Natsocs I've ever known. He's also, and I am not making this up, a 6'3" lanklet with a degenerative neuromuscular disorder, a furry, and is currently dating a FTM tranny.

This guy does Nazi salutes when he would've been ovenbait in Nazi Germany.

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He's the one on the left (look at that arm!).

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I'll be uploading it later (don't have it on my PC ATM), but earlier this year after getting kicked out of the /pol/ discord, he demonstrated his idea of alt-right activism: he went into a burger king staffed mostly by black people and disconnected the card readers (haha well-pranked, my friend!) .

He was also wearing makeup at the Rally to hide how shitty his skin was and ended up looking like a ball of dough in the process. He also has one hell of a nose.

I don't believe that we should publicly punch right, I don't believe that we should publicly disavow people to appease the hysteria on the Left, but we have to institute some measure of internal policing on the far right (I'm far right, but I'm not nat soc, white supremacist or white nationalist; racist as hell, though) so autists like this guy and Adolf Skywalker don't get out of control. I'm not talking about public humiliation or groveling for forgiveness, but just making sure these sorts of people are suppressed so reasonable, effective people can rise to the surface. You know, the kind of people that won't make fools of us all.

Edited by KingGoy, 18 August 2017 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:46 AM

Hi folks,

Been lurking here for a long time and as much as I've wanted to post, more often than not, all you fine folks keep beating me to any points I'd like to offer. Guess I'm going to have to start thinking a little faster...

Anyway, I had a simple solution to the statue problem: Just put all of them up for sale. Allow buyers to purchase anonymously. At least then, many of them would be treated with respect, if only in private collections. Maybe someday our republic will deserve to have them out in the open again. Until that time, I would like to see them hidden away from people who take perverse pleasure in destroying history.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:57 AM

View PostShitlord HR Rep, on 17 August 2017 - 09:54 PM, said:

Disregarding leadership and optics, it took a lot of balls

So when Spencer & Enoch fled under protection to allow their dimwitted followers to get arrested, did that take balls too?

It took zero balls to be clueless, and that's mainly all they ever did.

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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:01 AM

View Postoutdoorspro, on 18 August 2017 - 09:46 AM, said:

Hi folks,

Been lurking here for a long time and as much as I've wanted to post, more often than not, all you fine folks keep beating me to any points I'd like to offer. Guess I'm going to have to start thinking a little faster...

Anyway, I had a simple solution to the statue problem: Just put all of them up for sale. Allow buyers to purchase anonymously. At least then, many of them would be treated with respect, if only in private collections. Maybe someday our republic will deserve to have them out in the open again. Until that time, I would like to see them hidden away from people who take perverse pleasure in destroying history.

I'm allergic to giving shitlibs one inch whatsoever. I hate being forced to defend Confederate monuments (I'm a Virginian, I support their continued existence, but being forced into this position feels autistic). However, if we were to put them up for sale, s**tlib bugmen billionaires and millionaires would swoop in from all over the country to buy our statues and then have Corporate-sponsored Livestreamed Monument Destruction for the Furthering of Progress and Shareholder Value.

Edited by KingGoy, 18 August 2017 - 10:03 AM.


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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:03 AM

View PostCannabaudes, on 17 August 2017 - 08:22 PM, said:



I'll have to admit, I was really surprised by these results. 90% of Trump supporters, 86% of Republicans, 67% of white people, 62% overall, and 44% of black people (which is actually a plurality) support keeping the statues up. I never felt strongly about the confederate monuments one way or another and figured that arguing to keep them up was a lost cause. Instead, it looks like most people except for really strong democrats want to leave them up. These results are so far from what I'd expect that frankly I'd be very suspicious, were it not for the fact that this contradicts the narrative so hard. 67% of Latinos and a plurality of blacks think they should stay up!

I guess defending the statues isn't a total waste of time, so long as you don't poison the well by bringing Nazi flags when you do it.

A lot of that probably isn't from people who are passionate about the Confederacy or Civil War History, but rather people who are perceiving these moves as provocative acts advanced by troublemakers. Your average American doesn't understand why something that has stood for 100 years is suddenly an incandescent source of offense.

Northern Virginia is a microcosm of the United States - rapidly flooding a community with people foreign to it and antagonistic to its culture and history, who in turn act provocatively to claim spaces and uproot the existing order.



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Posted 18 August 2017 - 10:11 AM

View PostKingGoy, on 18 August 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

I'm allergic to giving shitlibs one inch whatsoever. I hate being forced to defend Confederate monuments (I'm a Virginian, I support their continued existence, but being forced into this position feels autistic). However, if we were to put them up for sale, s**tlib bugmen billionaires and millionaires would swoop in from all over the country to buy our statues and then have Corporate-sponsored Livestreamed Monument Destruction for the Furthering of Progress and Shareholder Value.

A couple angles on this.

1. Defend them because Shitlibs hate them, and it is hard to go wrong opposing shitlibs.

2. I'm a Canadian, I have zero familial, cultural or emotional attachment to these statues. They represent significant history. We have to protect history (the good and the bad) or we forget what the f**k we're doing, what we stand for, what we've won and fought together for. Maybe you hate the Confederacy, but it happened. It was a real thing. Today they wipe out the Confederacy, tomorrow, they erase your grandfather's history. Once the ball is rolling (and it nearly is) it will be impossible to stop.

My country has no significant statues that I can name because we literally have no history to preserve. Don't become like us.


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