Nathan, on 14 June 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:
Groypergascar, on 13 June 2018 - 07:02 PM, said:
Some of the ways the movement presents itself can be confusing to the mainstream, given the level of irony involved. The amount of humor and vulgarity confuses people. The true nature of the movement, however, is serious and idealistic. We have in this new millennium an extremely nihilistic culture. From the point when I first became active in what has become the Alt-Right movement, it was my contention that in an age of nihilism, absolute idealism must be couched in irony in order to be taken seriously. This is because anyone who attempts to present himself as serious will immediately be viewed as the opposite through the jaded lens of our post-modern milieu.
Lies. This isn't escaping the poz dialectic, it is embracing the whole structure of the poz dialectic. "Ironic idealism" is the synthesis between the God-fearing Christians thesis and Jewtube faggotry antithesis.
Poz is poz. Nothing I have seen out of Aryan Sknet has an ounce of real heroism or inspiration.
keep spinning your wheels in your paradigm blind purity spiral then. meanwhile Sam Hyde, carltonautism, groypernation, BAP, and Donald J Trump himself (a man forged in post-modern hyper-reality) pass you by. Sad!
incidentally, the Christian existentialist Søren Kierkegaard identified the occurrence of irony in the Western tradition as far back as Socrates, whose interrogatory method insincerely buys into the assumptions of the opponent in order to clarify and then expose their flaws. Irony forms when a distance occurs between subject matter and the intention of its interlocutor. The pathos of distance locates irony within the realm of aesthetic experience, which provides the detachment to see beauty in tragedy and other complex phenomena.
Paul the Apostle paints a picture of this process in I Corinthians 1:27, 28:
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
Irony fits into many philosophical systems, and can be deployed for any number of ends. The 'differential logic' of French deconstruction and the Socratic who wishes to show the truth about life both draw from it. It certainly doesn't reside in a miserable Manichean binary in which you line up the Jews on one side and Christianity on the other to buttress your trad credentials.
Edited by Groypergascar, 20 June 2018 - 12:12 AM.