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Deviance, Poz, and F****try, OH MY!


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#21 Beastman AIDS

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

lol @ the dykes being rendered as petite, feminine women instead of the mousy looking nerdettes or the bloated hags they'd be in reality.

Seriously I've never ever seen a lesbian that didn't look like goons.png

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

A lot of gay men are into that stuff.  It's hard to say the percentage because, oddly, there's not a lot of interest in social science research that draws a clearer picture of homosexual deviance.  Gay rights groups wage war on anyone who raises questions about the prevalance of things like coprophilia among gay men.  Good luck getting research done in this area.  Gays themselves are totally uninterested in knowing the answer.  The prejudice in social science is against any reasonable definition of deviance.

If you even tried to argue that we've gone too far in accepting clearly dysfunctional, dangerous sexual behavior like coprophilia, you'll have screaming fags on your doorstep in no time.  The current mood is typified by this passage from the Wikipedia article on paraphilia (nee sexual deviance):

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The view of paraphilias as disorders is not universal. Some groups seeking greater understanding and acceptance of sexual diversity have lobbied for changes to the legal and medical status of unusual sexual interests and practices. Charles Allen Moser, a physician and advocate for sexual minorities, has argued that the diagnoses should be eliminated from diagnostic manuals.[13] Psychiatrist Glen Gabbard writes that despite efforts by Stekel and Money, "the term paraphilia remains pejorative in most circumstances."[14]

In the current version of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV-TR), a paraphilia is not diagnosable as a psychiatric disorder unless it causes distress to the individual or harm to others.[1] The DSM-5 draft adds a terminology distinction between the two cases, stating that "paraphilias are not ipso facto psychiatric disorders", and defining paraphilic disorder as "a paraphilia that causes distress or impairment to the individual or harm to others".[15] This is purported by the draft to make a clear distinction between a healthy person with a non-normative sexual behavior and a person with a psychopathological non-normative sexual behavior. (On the other hand, a similar position was claimed to justify the inclusion of "Sexual orientation disturbance (Homosexuality)" in DSM II and "Ego-dystonic homosexuality" in DSM III[citation needed], before disorders related to homosexuality were removed from the category.)

How in the world is "lobbying" a scientific activity?  It isn't of course--it is pure liberal suppression of science.

The definition of a disorder was changed so that it is entirely harm based and the harm defined by reference to the individual.  Despite including "or harm to others", conflict with prevailing social mores isn't accepted as a definition of harm, even though that would be a reasonable definition (perhaps most social behavior is intended to reinforce cooperation and suppress deviance).  Harm is clearly inadequate to define all mental illness, but this point is mooted by the fact that the definition is inconsistently applied anyway.

Note there is no category for someone who is unhappy with homosexual (or other) urges, other than "sexual disorder not otherwise specified".  The history of the DSM's treatment of homosexuality as a disorder is that it was included in the original manual, replaced by "sexual orientation disturbance" in the DSM-II, that was replaced with "ego-dystonic sexual orientation" in the DSM-III, and the whole concept was tossed out the window in the DSM-IV.  Thus has political pressure defined the concept of deviant behavior out of existence.  It's literally okay simply because they say it is, and you'll find that exact claim parroted mindlessly by gay advocates.  It's not in the DSM ergo it's not mental illness.

The problem with using harm as a basis for defining mental disorder is that it is symptom-based and is not tethered to any idea of normal development or function.  Unlike physical deviance, such as a club foot, mental deviance and its deleterious effects can be masked.  If you took the concept to its natural extension, sociopathy could not be defined as a mental disorder because the sociopath doesn't mind it and in most of his interactions there isn't obvious harm to others.  You have the same problems with narcissism.  Yet we know, despite the absence of outward harm, that these are mental illnesses, because we can observe the personality deficits, the retarded emotional life, and so on.

Of course you can argue that eventually these lead to harm, but then you have a problem with homosexuality, particularly in the context of mass society where homosexual male behavior is responsible for so much disease spreading.  Here we have a very clear case of harm exacerbated by sexual deviance, but it's still not good enough--hundreds of thousands of people dying is not a demonstration of harm by the (perverse) standards of anti-science gay activists.

But here it finally reaches the point where we can make headway with people open to a more comprehensive definition of mental and societal health.  People can be convinced in the reasonableness of traditional mores, but one must be prepared for the tactics of the left and one must be able to fully articulate a definition of harm.

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I'd actually go out on a limb and say sociopathy is a net positive for a lot of people effected by it, and yet because it doesnt deal with OMG MUH GENITALS, it's classified as a disorder (as it should be).

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Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

This is from a letter by JK Huysmans, written around 1890 in reply to a doctor who had made inquiries concerning the gay among French and English writers:

J.-K. Huysmans:

Your letter and your book bring back to mind some horrifying evenings I once spent in the sodomite world, to which I was introduced by a talented young man whose perversities are common knowledge. I spent only a few days with these people before it was discovered that I was not a true homosexual - and then I was lucky to get away with my life ... In particular, I remember seeing one of our matinee-idols coming into a tavern in the Rue de Vertus that was much frequented by raddled old 'boys' of sixty ... Never in my life have I seen anything so sinister. It was obvious that he hated and despised himself for coming - and yet there he was, with his coat-collar turned up, looking ghastly pale and pathetically unhappy. When you have seen something like that, you really feel like thanking God that you aren't made the same way ...


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Posted 24 January 2013 - 08:42 PM

after years of research diversity seems to all ways end in s**t

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:07 AM

View PostPLEASUREMAN, on 24 January 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

A lot of gay men are into that stuff.  It's hard to say the percentage because, oddly, there's not a lot of interest in social science research that draws a clearer picture of homosexual deviance.  Gay rights groups wage war on anyone who raises questions about the prevalance of things like coprophilia among gay men.

Remember the campaign by Dan Savage to redefine Rick Santorum’s name? The aim was to humiliate him, but for me – and I would think many others – it just reinforced my perception that sodomy is a really disgusting act. Even the homos must realize on some level that it’s repulsive since they intended “Santorum” to have negative connotations.

View PostPLEASUREMAN, on 24 January 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

  Good luck getting research done in this area.  Gays themselves are totally uninterested in knowing the answer.  The prejudice in social science is against any reasonable definition of deviance.

If you even tried to argue that we've gone too far in accepting clearly dysfunctional, dangerous sexual behavior like coprophilia, you'll have screaming fags on your doorstep in no time.  The current mood is typified by this passage from the Wikipedia article on paraphilia (nee sexual deviance):

It's been said before, but the internet and mass media in general have this remarkable power to legitimize harmful and deviant lifestyles: “It’s okay, don’t feel ashamed; there are others like you out there”.

There’s an obvious parallel, for instance between the fat-acceptance movement and Pro-Ana/thinspiration websites; but since thin women are the traditional (and by extension, “misogynistic”) standard of beauty criticizing the former is hate speech and all, in-spite of the fact that deaths and illness resulting from anorexia are about 1/10th of those caused by obesity.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:59 AM

From a Swedish twin study (the largest twin study of homosexual behaviour attempted up to that point) on genetic and environmental effects on homosexual behaviour. 3,826 monozygotic and dizygotic homosexual adult twins between 20-47 years of age were used.

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Biometric modeling revealed that, in men, genetic effects explained .34-.39 of the variance, the shared environment .00, and the individual-specific environment .61-.66 of the variance. Corresponding estimates among women were .18-.19 for genetic factors, .16-.17 for shared environmental, and 64-.66 for unique environmental factors. Although wide confidence intervals suggest cautious interpretation, the results are consistent with moderate, primarily genetic, familial effects, and moderate to large effects of the nonshared environment (social and biological) on same-sex sexual behavior.
In summary, this suggests that individual differences in homosexual behaviour is due to non-familial environments (differing school & peer experiences, sexual abuse etc.). So, while the predisposition to homosexuality is genetic or largely genetic, the expression of the behaviours associated with homosexuality (promiscuity, paraphilias) are largely environmentally determined.

The authors concede that f****ts are broken people :

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Same-sex behaviour remains a substantial correlate of sexually transmitted infections in men and is also associated with increased risk of physical and psychiatric morbidity among both men and women in the general population.

The authors cite the study by Susan Cochran and Vickie Mays, that in contrast to "most studies" found the homosexually active men were more likely than straight men to have major depression (i.e. suicidality) and panic attack syndromes. Lesbian women were more likely to be classified with alcohol or drug dependency syndromes. They note that both homosexual men and women were more likely than heterosexuals to have used mental health services in the prior year.  :meltdown:

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

That's because they are being actively oppressed by the bigoted reactionary white Christian males that rule over Swedish society.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:01 PM

We’ve probably all heard of the studies showing that homosexuals have different brain structure to heterosexuals – with straight men having similar asymmetrical brain hemispheres to lesbians and vice versa, as well as differences in the hypothalamus.

What you may not have seen are recent studies in neuroplasticity: A child’s social environment (specifically, experiences with adversity) can induce changes in the hippocampus associated with major depression later in life.

Or this one, something as simple as physical exercise can stave off the overall brain degeneration of Alzheimer’s disease.

It’s pretty technical and 888 stuff, but no more so than the frequently cited study by Savic and Lindström, which I doubt most gay advocates even read.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 02:06 AM

love that the dyke comic only has her doing the dishes with her co-sapphist. Propaganda like this always de-sexualizes the relationship because drawing attention to what deviants actually do would undermine the normalization pitch. The comic is an emotional appeal, not a rational one, and reminding even sympathetic-minded readers about the actual deviant part would be emotionally discordant, even if it doesnt rationally contradict the comic's point otherwise. So, sorry ladies, no sex life for you, just dishes.

This is true even though the subjects here are preposterous lipstick lesbians, and so the idea of sex between them would not be outright repugnant to most readers (quite the opposite in many cases). It still would hit at an emotional level that all the normality and "goodness" in every other panel is at odds with the key characteristic of their relationship.

Also: black baby, wtf how they just throw that in there. emphasizing the "good person" premise I guess, but if their audience stipulates that as evidence of goodness, or overlooks it as a contradiction of the pitch that all else here is normal, aren't they already part of the choir?

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:22 AM

Well I thought the black baby was pretty authentic for a s**tlib couple.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:51 AM

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 12:04 PM

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

View Postvintage Dibs - just add kvas, on 23 January 2013 - 06:40 PM, said:

[img]http://i.imgur.com/e...FWmZU4.jpg[/img] Photos speaker louder than words, and faces in photos speak even louder than any description
If I recall correctly, the dykes are both international frugalists.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:19 PM

lol this thread is like tumbling down the rabbit hole reeking orifice

Gainers - apparently there is a fag subculture that combines fat acceptance/fetishism and faggotry. This deviant subculture within a deviant subculture apparently deserved a considerable documentary, made by this nazi caricature of a Jew and a french f****t who made this piece of "art".  It follows Rick , a fag bodybuilder who in his quest to get swole, discovered he had a deviant sexual fetish ( :carolla: ssshhhhoccckingggg). Basically there are gainers, who eat like pigs and gain enormous amounts of fat; and encouragers, who encourage and occasionally force fed their victims "partners"




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...then there are guys who want to be immobile, and that's a whole separate issue where it's not about the kind of body you have it''s the issue of not being able use their body, and there's guys who very interested in making them immobile, and I've talked...to guys who want you to have heart problems, puff when you go upstairs, want you to start smoking, because you'll be more physically compromised, and that's the whole concept...there's a lot of different little camps :gay:  within gaining

Apparently some of these degenerates, unable to balloon up to the required size, pad their clothes, to give the appearance that they are obese.

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they want to stuff you until you're really full :heyo: [with food] and there's something very erotic about that...

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you do all these things to build up this huge fetish that gets you off and then the minute you ejaculate you go, oh my god what am I doing :freud:

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I sometimes am worried about the health issues of it...but some people smoke, some people take drugs, some people drink water that gives them cancer...when the day is done I sit down and I say "well what makes me happy and what turns me on", part of this turns me on, so I can't really just squash it and stick it in the closet [where you belong f****t]
Whatever debauched sin makes me happy and horny - damn the consequences. liberalism.txt

Homosexuals are notoriously self-destructive, I've posted a study showing their susceptibility to suicidality; other studies have shown that the AIDS epidemic prompted no lasting change in the promiscuous behaviour of homosexuals.

Just like you and me though - just add 200 pounds
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Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:17 PM

If I'm such a good person, why do bad things happen?  If I'm such a good person, why does cancer exist?  If God is real, then how come 9/11?

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:34 PM

View PostC B, on 01 February 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

No gut, no gloryhole

C B, do you really need all my upvotes? :hardship:

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

daily mail has an article that says basically fags be faggin as hard as ever. the only thing that has changed is bug is caught earlier.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:22 AM

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Racism, discrimination, homophobia, depression, and post-traumatic stress disorder fuel the HIV epidemic among many young black and Latino men, according to a study by Perry Halkitis, director of the Center of Health, Identity, Behavior and Prevention Studies at NYU Steinhardt.

Halkitis’ study, “Measurement Model Exploring a Syndemic in Emerging Adult Gay and Bisexual Men,” was published in the February edition of AIDS and Behavior.

Studies show that gay, bisexual, and other MSMs account for more than 50 percent of all infections and more than 50 percent of recent HIV infections in the U.S., with some 70 percent in urban centers.

“The fact of the matter is that these psychosocial stressors that gay men experience heighten their vulnerability to HIV,” Halkitis explained.

Halkitis received $2.9 million from the National Institute of Health’s (NIH) National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) in 2009 to begin his study.

http://www.nyu.edu/a...researcher.html

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