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Boiling the Dog: Ethnic Conflict and the Sarah Jeong Affair


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#1 Cena JQanon

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 02:33 PM



Lol at the alt-right viciously harrassing a young asian woman.

With what? Marriage proposals and paypig offerings?




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Posted 02 August 2018 - 02:44 PM

View PostCena Spicbiscuit, on 02 August 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:



Lol at the alt-right viciously harrassing a young asian woman.

With what? Marriage proposals and paypig offerings?

"Imitating the rhetoric of her harassers" is such a vapid Obama-esque version of the Noble Savage. Non-white people are saints until corrupted by 4chan incels!

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 05:34 PM




Edited by Kike Hernandez, 02 August 2018 - 10:43 PM.


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Posted 02 August 2018 - 06:21 PM

View PostNathan, on 02 August 2018 - 02:44 PM, said:

View PostCena Spicbiscuit, on 02 August 2018 - 02:33 PM, said:



Lol at the alt-right viciously harrassing a young asian woman.

With what? Marriage proposals and paypig offerings?

"Imitating the rhetoric of her harassers" is such a vapid Obama-esque version of the Noble Savage. Non-white people are saints until corrupted by 4chan incels!
Carlos Slim's Blog's defense is that the Asian they hired copies things white people wrote. :lol:

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Posted 02 August 2018 - 07:05 PM

It's actually pretty rare for leftist organizations to even be goaded into defending their employees' anti-white comments. You can pretty much assume any non-white leftist has made anti-white comments at least as salty as Jeong's and it's usually just ignored. If we start seeing actual firings for anti-white comments that would be a major sign of change.

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 04:32 AM



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Posted 03 August 2018 - 05:42 AM



Called it.

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 06:08 AM

The only opinion any gookette has that is of any importance to me is her view on the proper chocolate bar to maple bar ratio for sale at her doughnut shop.

(Note: Optimal ratio is three chocolate bars to every one maple bar available. You're welcome, chinks.)

Edited by Jourdan Peterson, 03 August 2018 - 06:09 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 08:10 AM

View PostProfessional Racist, on 03 August 2018 - 05:42 AM, said:



Called it.

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 08:36 AM

View PostChrome, on 02 August 2018 - 07:05 PM, said:

It's actually pretty rare for leftist organizations to even be goaded into defending their employees' anti-white comments. You can pretty much assume any non-white leftist has made anti-white comments at least as salty as Jeong's and it's usually just ignored. If we start seeing actual firings for anti-white comments that would be a major sign of change.
At least things are changing somewhat, but it might also just be the fact that the left is becoming more outspoken in their anti-white racism

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:32 AM

So this whole Sarah Jeong thing is a s**t test? Because Chad won't marry a Harvard Law grad with an identity crisis?
(She'll wind up playing the beard to some flamboyant weirdo. Or marrying a TRS podcast host.)

View PostJourdan Peterson, on 03 August 2018 - 06:08 AM, said:

The only opinion any gookette has that is of any importance to me is her view on the proper chocolate bar to maple bar ratio for sale at her doughnut shop.

(Note: Optimal ratio is three chocolate bars to every one maple bar available. You're welcome, chinks.)

One side effect of SCALE: the re-emergence of Dunkin Donuts as a dominant brand has put the squeeze on those Asian donut shops.

Edited by Kike Hernandez, 03 August 2018 - 09:34 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:39 AM

View PostJewish_Neocon, on 03 August 2018 - 08:36 AM, said:

View PostChrome, on 02 August 2018 - 07:05 PM, said:

It's actually pretty rare for leftist organizations to even be goaded into defending their employees' anti-white comments. You can pretty much assume any non-white leftist has made anti-white comments at least as salty as Jeong's and it's usually just ignored. If we start seeing actual firings for anti-white comments that would be a major sign of change.
At least things are changing somewhat, but it might also just be the fact that the left is becoming more outspoken in their anti-white racism

I think both of you are right.

However, this little scandal is a gift from heaven. It comes right on the heels of Sulzberger’s trip to the Oval Office to beg the President not to call the press the enemy of the people. And now this - their own staff caught in the act of expressing their enmity towards the (white) people (ie the people).

No matter what happens we win. The Times stands by their new employee - another blow to their reputation and justification of Trump’s attack on the press. It moves us further toward the point in time when we can actually go after the NYT et al. There will be popular support for it. Or they cave and s**t can her - they will look weak in the face of Trump, who always wins, and they’ll be set upon by enraged PoC pets.

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:50 AM

View Postinternational frugalist Hernandez, on 03 August 2018 - 09:32 AM, said:

So this whole Sarah Jeong thing is a s**t test? Because Chad won't marry a Harvard Law grad with an identity crisis?
(She'll wind up playing the beard to some flamboyant weirdo. Or marrying a TRS podcast host.)


This has to happen. They're both single, live in New York, are racially woke...

Enoch is no weev, but she just turned 30 and is desperate enough to settle. Someone just needs to arrange a meet cute and the whole thing will unfold like a rom-com.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:50 AM

#MediaGate

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 11:23 AM

Frequenters of MPC know that American society is fast approaching a tipping point where arguing about racism is simply no longer credible. The arguments have become trite and all of them are used disingenuously—as cudgels—to simply extract concessions from other tribes. No better example of this effect than what occurred yesterday in the discussions surrounding South Korean-American blogger Sarah Jeong.

Part I

Within hours of the New York Times's decision to hire Ms. Jeong to its editorial staff, a few enterprising tweeters had unearthed her online history of racially taunting whites. Her comments, while vicious in the context of ordinary decency, are standard fare in the world of Vox-tier liberal snark. Like technical mastery of the violin or a diploma from Columbia, edgy tweets about whitey just look good on a resumé.

Nonetheless, the Times issued the following forced non-apology (without bothering to check for glaring typographical errors):

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In short, it's still your fault, white America. Presumably, as Ms. Jeong begins a plush gig with the Times, it may never be clear what of her editorial content is her own work and what is "imitating the rhetoric" of others. Just as the achievements of white men are invariably rooted in the thankless toil of Persons of Color, Ms. Jeong's vituperations are not her own, but flow from the inexhaustible tributary of white racism.

The facts are secondary to the narrative which grows around them. In rallying to Ms. Jeong's cause, many on the left used the standard, tired attack: one cannot be racist against white people. This argument relies on the prior assumption that racism has nothing to do with ethnic hatred per se, but that it is instead a function of power relationships. Since whites dominate America, so the theory goes, racism is nothing more than the system which whites use to control other races. Nonwhites are therefore permitted to dehumanize whites as part of their general struggle toward emancipation. However, in the case of Ms. Jeong, this strategy doesn't resonate for a few reasons. Here are some of them, below the spoiler:

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As you can see, it's hard to find socioeconomic data to support the claim that Asians in America are structurally disadvantaged. Champagne oppression categories like Oscars representation won’t cut it.

Aside from the fact that it doesn’t seem to apply to the case of Asians, whites don't really buy the "power + prejudice" formula anyway. This is not 1990s America, and ethnic conflict is no longer a kind of gentleman's duel where both sides tally up the balance of past slights and wrongs before affording the other a game shot from point-blank range. It's no-holds-barred backcountry brawling. Racism is just racism, the horse is out of the barn, and everyone knows it. As I talked about in the Future of Racism Thread, we should expect ethnic conflict to become more stark and hostile as White Supremacy wanes.

That's why the big-brained leftist take on Ms. Jeong is coming from a new angle:

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Now the cry is that white complaints about ethnic hostility are made in bad faith. Well, maybe they are. But I don't see people like Yglesias running out every time someone finds a backward swastika painted on an old tool shed to put the purported victim's tears under a microscope. "Just how genuine is your pain, whitey" is itself not a good faith argument, not from the left anyway, which has made a cottage industry out of performative grief.

Edited by Bonobo Mindset, 03 August 2018 - 04:00 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 11:29 AM

Part II

We’re getting to the point where a critical mass of people have begun to see that caterwauling about racism is mostly manipulative bullshit. When members of the elite Asian professional class are hiding behind black liberation narratives about “structural power,” and Jews are publicly musing whether whites are “actually” upset about jokes celebrating white extinction, you’d have to be hunkered down in some sort of Centrist bomb shelter not to realize the temperature is rising outside.

Indeed,

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Let’s get down to brass tacks. Nobody cares about “racism,” we’re just clawing out each other’s eyes grasping for control of this country and its resources. And guess what? Ethnocentrism is the most powerful solution to collective-action problems of mobilization and free-riding ever devised.

Which brings me to this fascinating 2013 article called “The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentric Cooperation.” Essentially, the authors ran iterated prisoner’s dilemma games among teams of automated competitors, evaluating what cooperative strategies generated the highest returns per team.

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From a random start, ethnocentric strategies dominate other possible strategies (selfish, traitorous, and humanitarian) based on cooperation or non-cooperation with in-group and out-group agents. Here we show that ethnocentrism eventually overcomes its closest competitor, humanitarianism, by exploiting humanitarian cooperation across group boundaries as world population saturates. Selfish and traitorous strategies are self-limiting because such agents do not cooperate with agents sharing the same genes. Traitorous strategies fare even worse than selfish ones because traitors are exploited by ethnocentrics across group boundaries in the same manner as humanitarians are, via unreciprocated cooperation.

In short, if you can effectively argue that “tribalism is bad except when we do it,” you will kick everybody’s ass very quickly. This is not a winning strategy, it’s the winning strategy in a multicultural system. This is why the NRO response to the Jeong affair is so repulsive. While being shredded by ethnocentric tactics, it’s maddeningly cruel and self-defeating to beg your followers to cling to humanitarianism.

As America becomes more multicultural, the system of “in-group favoritism for me, but not for thee” is only going to become more brazen. It is already critically important for right-wing people to learn to hold the line the way the New York Times did yesterday. When the mob gets upset, just give your enemies the middle finger, and issue a typo-ridden, perfunctory justification for your behavior if you absolutely have to. This mercenary state of affairs would not be my first choice, but it’s the world the left has worked tirelessly to build for the last 50 years, so they at least deserve to get it good and hard.

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Posted 03 August 2018 - 12:23 PM

Good content. I have nothing to add, except to point out that if (Jewish) nonprofit money gave grants for it and/or (Jewish) boards of directors wanted it, the loudest of these Ethnic Thought Leaders would be doing Lee Greenwood karaoke.

Mass media is an inherently artificial enterprise. That's baked into the cake. What's unique about the situation today is that this artificial enterprise is controlled by people who look like us but hate us, and they're turning the artifice towards these ends.

Edited by Shrill, 03 August 2018 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 12:37 PM

An elementary principle of any rule-based moral system is that the same rules apply universally.The Times and those rushing to defend Jeong have made obvious how utterly they have abandoned this principle.

The whole thing really lays bare the entire leftist project for the past twenty or so years: "If we do it, it is good. If you do it, it is bad. What's more, if you even disagree with us when we do it, you are bad." Most people will not take serious the byzantine arguments that the Times has to resort to in order to defend their hiring of this anti-white radical. "Some people on Twitter said mean things to a graduate of Harvard Law School, therefore its okay for her to celebrate cruelty to old white men and characterize whites as subterranean goblins." The normal response to this is: "give me a f**king break."

So you've really got to love this storyline. A blatantly anti-white foreigner gets a seat on the Times' editorial board and, once this comes to light, the Times digs in and insults those who call them out on their blatant hypocrisy. This whole story is one of the most flagrant indicators that the game is real and the bad guys are playing for keeps. The NRO types will never realize this because they would rather jump in front of a train than even think of issues from an ethnic perspective. Fortunately, a lot of people are not in the same mental straightjacket and this story should nudge them in the right direction - or at least away from the credulous acceptance of the left-globalist media narrative.


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Posted 03 August 2018 - 12:53 PM

remember these international frugalists are the ones who hired and fired Razib Khan in the same day. what did French, Shapiro et al have to say about that? what if the gook's tweets had been identical but replace "white people" with "jews," would that have been an innocent case of counter-trolling..



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Posted 03 August 2018 - 01:24 PM

View PostCircular Ruins, on 03 August 2018 - 12:37 PM, said:

An elementary principle of any rule-based moral system is that the same rules apply universally.The Times and those rushing to defend Jeong have made obvious how utterly they have abandoned this principle.

Please tell us when the jews ever embraced morality.


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