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Posted 17 February 2017 - 06:12 PM

Just a quick report back from Airstrip-1:

The BBC lost their s**t totally today. Coughing, spluttering, appealing...

Trump really did a number on them. They did a big big piece about how 'shocked, shocked' they were. How this had never happened before in the age of the un... sorry the history of the BBC.

They were like a little humiliated puppy (or person) that looks to find a friend when it's just had the s**t beaten out of it and it is disorientated, trying to find its feet, using what little is left of its sensibility to try and instinctively stave off another attack, that for the life of them, they did not understand 'why' it happened in the first place - so they appeal for external influence instead of looking inside for causality.

It was like watching a boxer get punched on the ropes when he is already down, but the only thing still holding him up, is said ropes.

They are punch-drunk and they really don't know what to do. The triple down stuff is not working. The trickle-down-triple-down media whores that they are.


Trump has effectively killed off the entire British press with his shenanigans. It is totally unreadable now. EVERY SINGLE f**king article is about him. And it ain't pretty. They have even started taking away the comments section on them now. You won't have a comments section in a year's time.

A note about the comments, it seems that he who hits first hits hardest, with the first few comments setting the tone. If the opposing side see the other one has a foothold, they tend to lay back and go elsewhere. Sometimes you get to and fro' but sometimes I prefer the circle-jerk: seeing lefties with their bad hair and their bad smell and their bad humour pile on in desperation, fills my cup up, but then again, there's nothing like a good old fashioned tearing down by the right, who are all pretty much on the same page. I use the 'right' advisedly of course. But we are growing. Shitlords or not. And sometimes I even learn something that I didn't know before. This can't carry on, and will stop when the right get the upper hand - you can be sure of that.

But to hear the BBC bleat 'He hit me......REALLY hard', was music to my fashy ears.

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Posted 19 February 2017 - 02:42 PM

I'll echo that the pragmatic thing is to concentrate on framing a more favorable market habitat. That would work with what's already happening, and we should channel existing energy rather than work against or perpendicular to it, according to stereotypical ancient chink knowledge. Circumvent and humiliate the MSM while legitimizing alternatives, sign the required anti-trust legislation, gas the Jews, and just let internet-era competition do its thing.

Maybe I'm optimistic, but I can even see this putting a dent in social media censorship, which could be tougher to crack than the likes of Don Lemon.

We should have some patience and not run to quick-fix but discreditable ideas like nationalizing the media and hard-censoring the opposition. Even if they were doable they could easily backfire. As rotten as the American news media is, it's still a sight better than state-run outfits in Canada, Britian, and Germany, whose official narratives go absolutely unchallenged.

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 03:30 AM

View PostVegan Supreme, on 19 February 2017 - 02:42 PM, said:

gaslight the Jews


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Posted 21 February 2017 - 02:11 PM

https://www.washingt...m=.c9eae21da74d

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By and large, integration has been a success story there, save for incidents like Monday night's, which have taken place in highly segregated neighborhoods....

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Nevertheless, the integration of immigrants into Swedish society is a problem that the government has been struggling to address.

meanwhile independent movie theaters are going to be screening 1984...to protest Trump

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:45 PM

How little has changed about the press.

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There is no such a thing in America as an independent press, unless it is out in country towns. You are all slaves. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to express an honest opinion. If you expressed it, you would know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid $150 for keeping honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should allow honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, I would be like Othello before twenty-four hours: my occupation would be gone. The man who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the street hunting for another job. The business of a New York trickle-down media whore is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to villify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same — his salary. You know this, and I know it; and what foolery to be toasting an "Independent Press"! We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the string and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.

John Swinton, former chief editorial writer of The New York Times, in 1883.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 12:49 PM

View PostTerrence Rhine, on 21 February 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

https://www.washingt...m=.c9eae21da74d

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By and large, integration has been a success story there, save for incidents like Monday night's, which have taken place in highly segregated neighborhoods....

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Nevertheless, the integration of immigrants into Swedish society is a problem that the government has been struggling to address.

meanwhile independent movie theaters are going to be screening 1984...to protest Trump

If that's what success looks like, define failure.

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Posted 22 February 2017 - 02:56 PM



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Posted 22 February 2017 - 03:06 PM

View PostPeak XOJane, on 22 February 2017 - 12:49 PM, said:

View PostTerrence Rhine, on 21 February 2017 - 02:11 PM, said:

https://www.washingt...m=.c9eae21da74d

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By and large, integration has been a success story there, save for incidents like Monday night's, which have taken place in highly segregated neighborhoods....

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Nevertheless, the integration of immigrants into Swedish society is a problem that the government has been struggling to address.

meanwhile independent movie theaters are going to be screening 1984...to protest Trump

If that's what success looks like, define failure.

Failure is when they start chanting "kill the Boer". So maybe in three months.

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 03:38 PM

Posted Image the fundamentals of our press are strong

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:04 PM

"Throws shade." I resent naggers because of all the bullshit slang thats infecting my brain.

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Posted 26 February 2017 - 04:18 PM

View Post(((SINISTER NAZI ECHO))), on 24 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

"Throws shade." I resent naggers because of all the bullshit slang thats infecting my brain.


it's the jews' fault for spreading it

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:15 PM

This article is worth re-posting here about the decline and fall of the press in the Internet age.

The non Trump portion of the article starts with this intro, some paragraphs into the story:

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Trump adviser Steve Bannon calls the media the opposition party, but that’s misleading. Everyone knows that the press typically tilts left, and no one is surprised, for instance, that The New York Times has not endorsed a Republican candidate since 1956. But that’s not what we’re seeing now—rather, the media has become an instrument in a campaign of political warfare. What was once an American political institution and a central part of the public sphere became something more like state-owned media used to advance the ruling party’s agenda and bully the opposition into silence. Russia’s RT network, the emir of Qatar’s Al Jazeera network—indeed, all of the Arab press—and media typically furnished by Third World regimes became the American press’ new paradigm; not journalism, but information operation.

How did this happen? It’s not about a few journalists, many of whom still do honor to the profession, or a few papers or networks. It’s a structural issue.


Smith's argument is that media decline began when they reacted to the Internet by giving everything away, which devalued their work in the consumer's mind:

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I was at the Voice when the meteor hit. Like many papers back then, dailies and weeklies, the Voice made its money on classified advertising. The New York Times, for instance, had three important classifieds sections—employment, automotive, and housing—but if New Yorkers really wanted to find a great apartment, they’d line up at the newsstand on 42nd Street to get a copy of the Voice hot off the press.

And then the internet came along, and it was all there in one place—for free. The press panicked. The Voice’s publisher at the time, David Schneiderman, announced to the staff that the paper was going free. It made no sense, he argued, to keep charging $1 for what consumers could get on the internet for nothing.

Here’s how the staff heard it: Who would want to pay $1 a week to read Nat Hentoff on civil liberties, Robert Christgau on music, Michael Musto on New York nightlife—or Wayne Barrett on the follies of real-estate mogul Donald Trump? That is, who would want to pay $1 a week to feel themselves a part of what the Village Voice had made them feel part of for decades? But at the time, devaluing content was in fashion—which meant, as few saw back then, the profession was digging its own grave.

These cutbacks in the 90s and 00s combined with generational turnover, led to a press filled with empty-headed reporters who willingly lent themselves as political operatives to the Democratic party, particularly Obama.

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It took The New York Times more than a decade to settle on billing consumers for its product—after giving it away, charging for it, giving it away again, then billing for “premium content,” etc. By then, it was too late. Entire papers went under, and even at places that survived, the costliest enterprises, like foreign bureaus and investigative teams, were cut. An entire generation’s worth of expertise, experience, and journalistic ethics evaporated into thin air.

...

This is the media environment that Barack Obama walked into—where Post columnist David Ignatius was no more important a media figure than Zach Galifianakis, on whose precious and often funny internet show Between Two Ferns the president marketed the Affordable Care Act...

Obama didn’t kill journalism, but he took advantage of it in its weakness, because he knew the press would do anything to feel relevant again. All those 27-year-olds at the Times, the Washington Post and others hired as bloggers—“who literally know nothing,” as Rhodes told the Times Magazine—when the foreign and national bureaus were closed, they didn’t know it wasn’t OK to be a trickle-down media whore and a political operative at the same time. They thought it made them more valuable, even patriotic, to put themselves in the service of a historic presidency. And they’d replaced for pennies on the dollar all the adults who could have taught them otherwise.

That’s the raw material out of which the Obama administration built its echo chamber, the purpose of which was to drown out the few remaining vestiges of journalism in order to sell the president’s policies.

Which brings us to today:

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Now with Trump in the White House, commentators on the right are critical of those angry with the press for calling out Trump on the same stuff that Obama got away with. Let’s be above it, they argue. Just because Obama did it doesn’t make it OK for Trump to do it. Fine, obviously, call out Trump—but this isn’t about playing gotcha. It’s about a self-aggrandizing press corps gaslighting the electorate. The public is astonished and appalled that the media has now returned after an eight-year absence to arrogate to itself the role of conscience of the nation.

It’s not working out very well.



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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:30 PM

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The public is astonished and appalled that the media has now returned after an eight-year absence to arrogate to itself the role of conscience of the nation. It’s not working out very well.

George Orwell had good advice for these virtue-signaling trickle-down clowns who are discovering that you can't just rediscover integrity after spending 8 years as the fey mulatto's propaganda/fluffing division:

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"Do remember that dishonesty and cowardice always have to be paid for. Don’t imagine that for years on end you can make yourself the boot-licking propagandist of the Soviet régime, or any other régime, and then suddenly return to mental decency. Once a whore, always a whore."


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Posted 08 March 2017 - 04:37 PM

View PostDr. Hasslein, on 08 March 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

This article is worth re-posting here about the decline and fall of the press in the Internet age.

The non Trump portion of the article starts with this intro, some paragraphs into the story:

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Trump adviser Steve Bannon calls the media the opposition party, but that’s misleading. Everyone knows that the press typically tilts left, and no one is surprised, for instance, that The New York Times has not endorsed a Republican candidate since 1956. But that’s not what we’re seeing now—rather, the media has become an instrument in a campaign of political warfare. What was once an American political institution and a central part of the public sphere became something more like state-owned media used to advance the ruling party’s agenda and bully the opposition into silence. Russia’s RT network, the emir of Qatar’s Al Jazeera network—indeed, all of the Arab press—and media typically furnished by Third World regimes became the American press’ new paradigm; not journalism, but information operation.

How did this happen? It’s not about a few journalists, many of whom still do honor to the profession, or a few papers or networks. It’s a structural issue.

Smith's argument is that media decline began when they reacted to the Internet by giving everything away, which devalued their work in the consumer's mind:

Quote

I was at the Voice when the meteor hit. Like many papers back then, dailies and weeklies, the Voice made its money on classified advertising. The New York Times, for instance, had three important classifieds sections—employment, automotive, and housing—but if New Yorkers really wanted to find a great apartment, they’d line up at the newsstand on 42nd Street to get a copy of the Voice hot off the press.

And then the internet came along, and it was all there in one place—for free. The press panicked. The Voice’s publisher at the time, David Schneiderman, announced to the staff that the paper was going free. It made no sense, he argued, to keep charging $1 for what consumers could get on the internet for nothing.

Here’s how the staff heard it: Who would want to pay $1 a week to read Nat Hentoff on civil liberties, Robert Christgau on music, Michael Musto on New York nightlife—or Wayne Barrett on the follies of real-estate mogul Donald Trump? That is, who would want to pay $1 a week to feel themselves a part of what the Village Voice had made them feel part of for decades? But at the time, devaluing content was in fashion—which meant, as few saw back then, the profession was digging its own grave.

These cutbacks in the 90s and 00s combined with generational turnover, led to a press filled with empty-headed reporters who willingly lent themselves as political operatives to the Democratic party, particularly Obama.

Quote

It took The New York Times more than a decade to settle on billing consumers for its product—after giving it away, charging for it, giving it away again, then billing for “premium content,” etc. By then, it was too late. Entire papers went under, and even at places that survived, the costliest enterprises, like foreign bureaus and investigative teams, were cut. An entire generation’s worth of expertise, experience, and journalistic ethics evaporated into thin air.

...

This is the media environment that Barack Obama walked into—where Post columnist David Ignatius was no more important a media figure than Zach Galifianakis, on whose precious and often funny internet show Between Two Ferns the president marketed the Affordable Care Act...

Obama didn’t kill journalism, but he took advantage of it in its weakness, because he knew the press would do anything to feel relevant again. All those 27-year-olds at the Times, the Washington Post and others hired as bloggers—“who literally know nothing,” as Rhodes told the Times Magazine—when the foreign and national bureaus were closed, they didn’t know it wasn’t OK to be a trickle-down media whore and a political operative at the same time. They thought it made them more valuable, even patriotic, to put themselves in the service of a historic presidency. And they’d replaced for pennies on the dollar all the adults who could have taught them otherwise.

That’s the raw material out of which the Obama administration built its echo chamber, the purpose of which was to drown out the few remaining vestiges of journalism in order to sell the president’s policies.

Which brings us to today:

Quote

Now with Trump in the White House, commentators on the right are critical of those angry with the press for calling out Trump on the same stuff that Obama got away with. Let’s be above it, they argue. Just because Obama did it doesn’t make it OK for Trump to do it. Fine, obviously, call out Trump—but this isn’t about playing gotcha. It’s about a self-aggrandizing press corps gaslighting the electorate. The public is astonished and appalled that the media has now returned after an eight-year absence to arrogate to itself the role of conscience of the nation.

It’s not working out very well.

All true.

At the same time, one should not overlook foreign ownership of American media. The New York Times' controlling shareholder is Carlos Slim. The Wall Street Journal is owned outright by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox. WaPo is owned by American In Name Only, f****t Dr. Evil. Twitter's controlling shareholder is a dune coon. Undsoweiter.

In my opinion, foreign-owned (including fractional ownership) and/or foreign-controlled media corporations should be required to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.

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Posted 08 March 2017 - 10:53 PM

I don't think foreign ownership makes all that much difference, as the American billionaire class is about as hostile and amoral as foreign billionaires. BTW I'm pretty sure the Sulzburger family still controls most of the class B shares that actually confer voting rights for control of the board at the NYT. Bezos is a pretty typical example of the American elite. It would probably better to break up big media conglomerates and cap their profits with 100%+ marginal tax rates.

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:30 AM

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Edited by Terrence Rhine, 09 March 2017 - 12:31 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:32 AM

I am never going to stop being surprised at how corrupt our media is

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Posted 09 March 2017 - 12:43 AM

View PostChrome, on 08 March 2017 - 10:53 PM, said:

100%+ marginal tax rates.

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Posted 08 April 2017 - 09:32 PM

View Post(((SINISTER NAZI ECHO))), on 24 February 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

"Throws shade." I resent naggers because of all the bullshit slang thats infecting my brain.

There was a dumb white girl columnist on the CBC website recently using the word "woke" in its Negro sense. That kind of thing has been driving me crazy ever since "bling" appeared (in the late 90s, I think) and all of a sudden you'd see headlines in supposedly respectable newspapers along the lines of "King Tut's bling revealed".





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