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Posted 11 May 2013 - 01:45 PM

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:21 PM



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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:42 PM

Yeah assault that dude! Yeah yeah! augh yeah! f**k christians ugh they pay taxes and stuff! Ugh he cares about my soul ech! GIMME MORE WOMAN PILLS! *SLAPS BLACK GUY WITH DISMEMBERED PENIS*

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 09:51 PM

http://www.2blowhard...and_immune.html

A touching story of mass gay orgies in the 70's, including a huge comments section filled mostly with rationalizations but also absurdities:

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In addition, I witnessed something disturbing during those early times. I worked on a product that collected FDA information, a part of which was the monitoring of blood banks, including recalls of blood infected with various diseases. The blood banks did an excellent job of keeping AIDs out of public circulation from the start. However, after a couple of years, the recalls from San Francisco blood banks rose dramatically and so an investigation was quietly launched. It was discovered that some of the Sanfran blood banks had gay employees who were purposely releasing known AIDs-infected blood. The reason they gave was that if more people were infected outside of the gay male community, a cure would be discovered faster. I think those who were caught got to rethink that strategy in jail for a bit.
I think a big problem with "gay rights" is that it's really gay sex rights. It's only been the past three decades that "queer liberation," "boy love" and whatnot have given way to "we gays are just like straight people, only gayer."

There's also no coherency to any of it. What makes a gay hero? Being gay, pretty much. I remember a few years back some gays talking about a random American Revolutionary figure and suggesting he was gay because, basically, he wasn't married. Thus they tried to make him a "gay hero." Alan Turing's gayness only mattered because he killed himself over losing his career (and growing literal manboobs due to botched "treatment"), but otherwise only has value in showing someone that you can be intelligent and gay, not exactly a great revelation.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:07 AM

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Remember FCKH8? Found this poster of theirs upvoted to the top of imgur:

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:12 AM

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Not to derail, but the blog entry ends with this:

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A request for those who may feel moved to comment: Reflections, memories, and reactions are all welcome. Policy debates are too -- no reason any of us has to agree with the political / health establishment about the best way to contend with AIDS. But let's do what we can to avoid homophobia. Let's do what we can to avoid thought-policing our conversation to death too. A bas le thought police!

Yes, let's not have any thought police--and please check your [insert PC accusation] at the door!

Pseudo-conservatism at its most genteel and inoffensive and stupid.

This admonition is tacked on to the end of a series of descriptions by gay men of their own revolting behavior and a litany of diseases spread by them.  It is predictably followed in the comments by that old saw, "straight men would act this way too if women let them!"  Of course this claim is belied by evidence that most men do not engage in extreme sexual behavior that does not require general female approval--for example, heavy porn consumption, visiting strip clubs, attending peep shows, hiring prostitutes, etc.  These activities are practiced by a small minority of adult men and are not regarded as normal.  Even PUA behavior, which is an extremely mild version of the hooking up that gay men engage in, is not only rare but generally looked down on by men who are aware of it.

But there is seemingly no way to stomp this argument out among the nerds who spread it.  They can look at the IQ scores of blacks and draw a wide range of conclusions on what this confirms about foresightedness, criminal behavior, illegitimacy, but a massive epidemic with gay men at the center of it, a subculture riddled with infantile and grotesque sexuality, and generally hedonistic and amoral behavior (including indifference to spreading disease among their sexual partners) is just too inconclusive for them.  I know this gay guy who seems alright!  Of course one may know bipolars, alcoholics, drug addicts, neurotics, and so on who are basically decent people--but they are mentally ill, and their illness affects the people around them, and in great enough numbers it damages society.  To not seek to contain and treat it to the best of our ability is gross negligence.

Of course the last comment is a piece of sterling autism that requires no reply:

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While obviously there are serious practical reasons not to have anonymous sex with thousands of people--namely, all those grody diseases--I don't really understand why people see the issue in moral terms (aside from the immorality of exposing unsuspecting partners to diseases, but the guys quoted seemed aware of what they were getting into). Why is having sex with lots of people any worse than masturbating a lot? Aside from disease risks, isn't loveless sex basically just like assisted masturbation? [BEEP BOOP] I guess some people might have religious beliefs that say homosexuality is morally wrong, but in that case they should see monogamous homosexuals who've only had a few partners in their entire lives as just as bad as promiscuous ones who've had thousands...and some people might have religious beliefs that tell them sex without love is morally wrong, but in that case it seems to me they should be equally opposed to masturbation. Either way it seems like a lot of people are taking feelings related to homophobia or just plain physical revulsion and trying to rationalize them in lofty moral terms, but the logic doesn't seem very sound.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:28 AM

the fact that irrationality plays a huge role in the everyday lives of a large percent of americans (probably people in general) is a great way of making those rigid logic-tards get enraged. they start sputtering about how ILLOGICAL and IRRATIONAL that is, and how they cant understand how anybody could be happy being so UNREASONABLE
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:27 AM

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Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, has introduced legislation to repeal the state tax-exempt status of any youth organization that discriminates based on gender identity, sexual orientation or religious affiliation. The proposal, Senate Bill 323, cleared its first Senate Committee last week.

Lara said in a statement that while he is encouraged that the group is "working to put an end to their discriminatory practices of excluding LGBT youth," the proposed change announced today, which does not include gay scout leaders or adults, "falls short from implementing a truly inclusive policy."

"While the proposed resolution is a step in the right direction, continuing the ban of LGBT adults is premised on absurd assumptions and stereotypes that perpetuate homophobia and ignorance," Lara said in the statement. "The Youth Equality Act will continue to move forward as we seek to protect California's LGBT youth in perpetuity from being excluded from either existing or future youth groups."

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 05:22 PM

Since reading MPC, I’ve come round to the opinion that the gay rights movement is one of the top menaces to society rather than the stupid but inconsequential political farce I always assumed. Gays on their own are too screwed up to accomplish anything more threatening than fabulous parades; the threat comes from massive corporations--Google, Microsoft, IBM, HP, Golden Sachs, to name a few--who since the 1990s have been pouring massive amounts of cash into these movements and using the media to elevate gays to near-sainthood (which has clearly gone to their heads). It doesn’t stop in America; these companies are organizing conferences where leading marketers discuss how to inject pro-gay propaganda into traditional societies across the globe:

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Global employers are discovering both the advantages and the challenges of creating a diverse workforce. Perhaps one of the most difficult areas to address globally is the inclusion of LGBT employees into the organization, both at the employers' local level as well as worldwide. Progress toward achieving such a goal is particularly daunting when trying to overcome not only internal challenges, but cultural ones as well. For example, how can one establish an inclusive workforce when the employer is located in a region hostile to LGBT individuals? This workshop is designed to aid employers in establishing such a workforce through establishing a corporate infrastructure that includes creating ERGs, training and the necessary follow-through.

I just don’t f**king understand it, because pushing these agendas brings no obvious financial benefit to these companies, yet they appear 100% committed to it no matter the costs. It’s a disturbing trend and worth paying extremely close attention to.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 06:26 PM

My initial guess is that homosexual activism striks a chord with elites.  Why might that be?  Perhaps they see in homosexual behavior--hedonistic, amoral, narcissistic--a reflection of themselves.  Perhaps homosexuality is more prevalent among groups that comprise elites.  Perhaps they see support of homosexuality as the final stripping away of the natural constraints of traditional societies--after which everything is possible.  Perhaps one type of decadence begets another.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 07:04 PM

View PostCrabtree, on 19 May 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

I just don’t f**king understand it, because pushing these agendas brings no obvious financial benefit to these companies, yet they appear 100% committed to it no matter the costs. It’s a disturbing trend and worth paying extremely close attention to.

Not true.  The homosexual lifestyle is profligate and expensive since it's flamboyant, they don't have any kids except as adopted and easily discarded accessories so it's not like they'll ever save money to put them through college.  AIDS research and treatments funnel money to the sickcare system through expensive drugs and treatments, which all go through the taxpayer dime, and being short term thinkers they will go deeply into debt to appease their superficial personalities.

Basically it's like having extra women juicing the economy, except even moreso because they can serve as role models to the male youth as long as they're not so over-the-top faggy that they're offputting to their rapidly dwindling senses of masculinity.

Just like anything else, if you want to see why something happens, follow the trail of greenbacks.
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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:02 PM

View PostCrabtree, on 19 May 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Since reading MPC, I’ve come round to the opinion that the gay rights movement is one of the top menaces to society rather than the stupid but inconsequential political farce I always assumed. Gays on their own are too screwed up to accomplish anything more threatening than fabulous parades; the threat comes from massive corporations--Google, Microsoft, IBM, HP, Golden Sachs, to name a few--who since the 1990s have been pouring massive amounts of cash into these movements and using the media to elevate gays to near-sainthood (which has clearly gone to their heads). It doesn’t stop in America; these companies are organizing conferences where leading marketers discuss how to inject pro-gay propaganda into traditional societies across the globe:

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Global employers are discovering both the advantages and the challenges of creating a diverse workforce. Perhaps one of the most difficult areas to address globally is the inclusion of LGBT employees into the organization, both at the employers' local level as well as worldwide. Progress toward achieving such a goal is particularly daunting when trying to overcome not only internal challenges, but cultural ones as well. For example, how can one establish an inclusive workforce when the employer is located in a region hostile to LGBT individuals? This workshop is designed to aid employers in establishing such a workforce through establishing a corporate infrastructure that includes creating ERGs, training and the necessary follow-through.

I just don’t f**king understand it, because pushing these agendas brings no obvious financial benefit to these companies, yet they appear 100% committed to it no matter the costs. It’s a disturbing trend and worth paying extremely close attention to.

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Dont blame business only, blame academia too. Colleges and universities are pumping out the left leaning cretins off a production line. Many of those students take their pozzed values and education into the workforce, which in turn starts to have a huge impact on company culture as they gradually work their way up the food chain. Same can be said for many who end up in civil service. Its not about companies looking to profit only, its about individuals within those companies or government departments making decisions that impacts the organisation as a whole.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:07 PM

View PostGeorge Obsolete Peppard (GOP), on 19 May 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Basically it's like having extra women juicing the economy, except even moreso because they can serve as role models to the male youth as long as they're not so over-the-top faggy that they're offputting to their rapidly dwindling senses of masculinity.

Just like anything else, if you want to see why something happens, follow the trail of greenbacks.

Interesting. Another workshop from that conference I linked to seems to confirm what you're saying:

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India's young professionals are highly aspirational and eager to assert their individualistic identities, [i.e. spend] and this is creating ripples in the national identity-fabric. There is a struggle to make sense of these influences; while the Indian government continues to debate the merits of decriminalizing homosexuality, India's LGBT persons are becoming increasingly visible and celebrating their lifestyle like never before. Private companies are caught in the middle. On the one hand, they are wary of upsetting the government by openly supporting what might be construed as licentious "ape-ing of the West;" on the other hand, they are keenly aware of the many benefits of having a happy, productive, and well-adjusted workforce.

Are homosexuals really such a guaranteed boon to the global economy? In the short term, companies only risk pissing people off by sponsoring gay activism in regions hostile to it.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:29 PM

Anyone remember how two years ago the US and British governments joined hands to threaten countries that "persecuted homosexuals" by claiming they'd cut off foreign aid?

* http://www.guardian....us-aid-criteria
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15511081

It's the unlikely transformation of homosexuality into a geopolitical tool. One day a 90-year old African man will tell his adopted grandchildren the story of how the year 2015 heralded victorious Burundian gay liberation after American President Whiteman threatened to nuke the whole country if it didn't immediately set up cisgender creation stations or something.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:21 PM

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:26 PM

View PostAussie Mackey, on 19 May 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Dont blame business only, blame academia too. Colleges and universities are pumping out the left leaning cretins off a production line. Many of those students take their pozzed values and education into the workforce, which in turn starts to have a huge impact on company culture as they gradually work their way up the food chain. Same can be said for many who end up in civil service. Its not about companies looking to profit only, its about individuals within those companies or government departments making decisions that impacts the organisation as a whole.

Good point, but that raises a related question: why did the Academic Left start worshipping gays? I know there's a long tradition of academics promoting aberrant sex (Freud & Kinsey et al), but it's only recently, ca. 1990 or so, that university admins decided "queer theory" was a crucial field of study and mentally ill, AIDS-ridden sex addicts should be entrusted with their own departments. Even if you're trying to undermine social mores, it doesn't seem smart to put promiscuous f****ts in charge of anything.

I think gays are what destroyed the Left and turned it from a coherent ideology espoused by actual (if misguided and/or sociopathic) intellectuals, to a discordant mob of sexually confused retards advocating equal rights for cartoon pony lovers and extraterrestrial cats in human bodies. I doubt that anyone in the Frankfurt School ever in their wildest dreams thought cultural Marxism would include this:

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 10:56 PM

View PostCrabtree, on 19 May 2013 - 10:26 PM, said:

View PostAussie Mackey, on 19 May 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

Dont blame business only, blame academia too. Colleges and universities are pumping out the left leaning cretins off a production line. Many of those students take their pozzed values and education into the workforce, which in turn starts to have a huge impact on company culture as they gradually work their way up the food chain. Same can be said for many who end up in civil service. Its not about companies looking to profit only, its about individuals within those companies or government departments making decisions that impacts the organisation as a whole.

Good point, but that raises a related question: why did the Academic Left start worshipping gays? I know there's a long tradition of academics promoting aberrant sex (Freud & Kinsey et al), but it's only recently, ca. 1990 or so, that university admins decided "queer theory" was a crucial field of study and mentally ill, AIDS-ridden sex addicts should be entrusted with their own departments. Even if you're trying to undermine social mores, it doesn't seem smart to put promiscuous f****ts in charge of anything.

I think gays are what destroyed the Left and turned it from a coherent ideology espoused by actual (if misguided and/or sociopathic) intellectuals, to a discordant mob of sexually confused retards advocating equal rights for cartoon pony lovers and extraterrestrial cats in human bodies. I doubt that anyone in the Frankfurt School ever in their wildest dreams thought cultural Marxism would include this:

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Its the nature of progressives to show support for anything that will give them the social validation they are looking for. By being a more radical progressive than their counterparts, they can prove that they are the better and more enlightened progressive. Eventually the shaming reaches the point where the average liberal just relents and goes with the flow in an effort to avoid any social ostracisation, and before you know it homosexuals are elevated from degenerate, mentally ill sickos to victims worthy of sainthood. What was fringe is now mainstream.

You can see this in all their argumentation, where their entire position is often reliant on their ability to label or shame the opposition into compliance. Academics more than most are prone to this, purely because peer acceptance and validation is so crucial to their success as academics.

Its a non stop pissing contest between them and its why all poz is a slippery slope. There is no end point, its a race towards utter degeneracy. It does not stop. It defies reason because its an emotional position they take, often bereft of any real moral foundation. And its the idealism with the complete lack of moral foundation which they pass onto their students, who take it as gospel as they move into the world as an "educated intellectuals" shaping the organisations and institutions they work for.

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Posted 19 May 2013 - 11:00 PM

View PostPLEASUREMAN, on 19 May 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

My initial guess is that homosexual activism striks a chord with elites.  Why might that be?  Perhaps they see in homosexual behavior--hedonistic, amoral, narcissistic--a reflection of themselves.  Perhaps homosexuality is more prevalent among groups that comprise elites.  Perhaps they see support of homosexuality as the final stripping away of the natural constraints of traditional societies--after which everything is possible.  Perhaps one type of decadence begets another.

Great observation - homosexuality and clustered sexual deviations I think are more prevalent among elites. This could be due to the fact that elites were/are often segregated from women (females were secluded in ancient Greek society; elite sons of British aristocrats were sent off to boarding schools for years, with the only women they saw being relatives), but there is also likely a genetic component - given the small size and interbred character of the British ruling class or the Spartiate elite in Lakonia, a genetic predisposition could arise and quickly become hegemonic.

C.S.Lewis in Surprised by Joy noted that English boarding schools were hotbeds for homosexual activity and pederasty - where the most effeminate boy in the dorm would play the role of the Tart. Christopher Hitchens commented on a similar phenomenon (in disgusting detail) in his autobiography (he had several dalliances with future Tory minsters). Like most other Greek societies, the Spartan elite, the full citizen Spartiates, also engaged in homosexuality and pederasty - to such an extent that a newly-wed bride would have her head shaved to match those of male lovers; the elite Theban infantry - the Sacred Band were paired lovers; aristocratic homosexual couples like Harmodius and Aristogeiton, and Alexander and Hephaestion were not uncommon and were notoriously unstable - Harmodius and Aristogeiton assassinated Athenian tyrant Hipparchus over sexual jealousy, and Alexander was almost certainly bipolar and/or a malignant narcissist (he built a city for a horse, killed his own generals, forced Macedonian elites to adopt Persian customs and compelled them to marry locals, and marched his discontented army across Gedrosian desert just to spite them.) A young boy (paidika) would take the role of catamite or Ganymede to an older man, who served both as a lover and as a mentor. This sexual relationship with the boy would end with the appearance of the adult beard and full sexual maturity, which was considered revolting. :librage: zero link between homosexuality and pederasty bigot!!!

Since intelligence is correlated with novelty seeking behaviour, the elite segment of society, who are more intelligent on average, are more likely to engage in decadent actions that are were looked down on by the lower orders. For instance, you can't imagine Spartan helots or working class Victorian-era Brits being sympathetic towards or participating in the Bacchanalian orgies or pedastric relationships that aristocratic scions frequently engaged in.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 04:09 AM

View PostKhalidSheikhHorowitz, on 19 May 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

This could be due to the fact that elites were/are often segregated from women (females were secluded in ancient Greek society;
Related to the whole "leftists didn't care about gays until yesterday" thing, this reminds me of... Frederick Engels.

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But, in spite of locks and guards, Greek women found plenty of opportunity for deceiving their husbands. The men, who would have been ashamed to show any love for their wives, amused themselves by all sorts of love affairs with hetairai; but this degradation of the women was avenged on the men and degraded them also, till they fell into the abominable practice of sodomy and degraded alike their gods and themselves with the myth of Ganymede.
There's also a letter by Engels where he says to Marx that both men are lucky they'll die soon so they can avoid paying physical tribute to the victorious gays.

One thing I found bizarre, though (if true), was a RevLeft post:

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The German Social Democrats had been calling for abolition of all laws vs. homosexuality since at least the 1890s.

Hardly surprising, being as Schweitzer, Lassalle's successor as leader of the Lassalleans, was widely known to be homosexual, indeed having been arrested for sexual relations with a 14 year old boy in a Berlin public park. So any other position would have undermined the unity of the party.

And, be it noted, when the issue of legalizing homosexuality came up in the Reichstag during the Weimar Republic, which of course it did, the Weimar Republic being the Castro Street of the era, the Communists were the most militant defenders of homosexual rights, criticizing the Social Dems for selling out on the issue. The KPD was very well known for its liberated attitudes on all sexual matters.
Guy is probably exaggerating about KPD support for gayness, but I think this is an example of how writing a detailed history of homosexuality from an apologist POV would be disastrous for them, 99% of it consisting of constant repetitions, "and then this 50 year old man was arrested for buggering a 10 year old. The intolerance of the authorities was severe; he was sentenced to 5 years in prison for fagginess. He was a Gay Hero."

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 05:02 AM

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