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[Rumpleshitskin]

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my belief is that given our natures most of us can only be truly happy in relationships that support traditional sex roles

Fair enough, but how are we supposed to do that in the current legal environment?

[phalluster]

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

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my belief is that given our natures most of us can only be truly happy in relationships that support traditional sex roles

Fair enough, but how are we supposed to do that in the current legal environment?

lol HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE MEN, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAW???

[Rumpleshitskin]

Phalluster, on 30 July 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

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my belief is that given our natures most of us can only be truly happy in relationships that support traditional sex roles

Fair enough, but how are we supposed to do that in the current legal environment?

lol HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE MEN, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAW???

So what the f**k would you suggest, get married anyway, spend 5 years trying to make it work until my wife files for divorce, get blamed for her abandoning me and taking the kids with her, and spend the rest of my life working 2 jobs trying to pay whatever insane amount of maintenance the judge decides is "fair" and get sent to prison if I can't afford to pay it?

[PLEASUREMAN]

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

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my belief is that given our natures most of us can only be truly happy in relationships that support traditional sex roles

Fair enough, but how are we supposed to do that in the current legal environment?

find a decent woman, it's not hard but first you have to fix your antenna, which has probably been bent out of shape by years and years of sexualized and diseased pop culture

[some cunt]

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Phalluster, on 30 July 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

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my belief is that given our natures most of us can only be truly happy in relationships that support traditional sex roles

Fair enough, but how are we supposed to do that in the current legal environment?

lol HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE MEN, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAW???

So what the f**k would you suggest, get married anyway, spend 5 years trying to make it work until my wife files for divorce, get blamed for her abandoning me and taking the kids with her, and spend the rest of my life working 2 jobs trying to pay whatever insane amount of maintenance the judge decides is "fair" and get sent to prison if I can't afford to pay it?

Are you just preemptively dismissing the idea of marriage because youre a messed up little weirdo who wont be able to attract a decent mate? Sorry for the half baked psychoanalysis but your bad posts have got me really cheesed off.

[Rumpleshitskin]

some cunt, on 30 July 2012 - 01:00 PM, said:

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

Phalluster, on 30 July 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:19 PM, said:

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my belief is that given our natures most of us can only be truly happy in relationships that support traditional sex roles

Fair enough, but how are we supposed to do that in the current legal environment?

lol HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE MEN, WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF THE LAW???

So what the f**k would you suggest, get married anyway, spend 5 years trying to make it work until my wife files for divorce, get blamed for her abandoning me and taking the kids with her, and spend the rest of my life working 2 jobs trying to pay whatever insane amount of maintenance the judge decides is "fair" and get sent to prison if I can't afford to pay it?

Are you just preemptively dismissing the idea of marriage because youre a messed up little weirdo who wont be able to attract a decent mate? Sorry for the half baked psychoanalysis but your bad posts have got me really cheesed off.

Nope, what I want is for marriage to go back to being a permanent thing again.  Sorry if I'm bad at articulating this but as long as white men have to worry about no fault divorce and having to pay to have their kids taken away from them then the naggers and spics will keep outbreeding us.  Notice how these shitty divorce laws are present mainly in white countries.  I doubt that's a coincidence.

[Ske1etonjelly]

Ske1etonjelly, on 30 July 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

Essentially rape is an abomination because it is an act which violates a female's identity and worth. How much depends on how well they can cope psychologically, so to nearly all men some women will be much more worthless after rape than a few women who can deal. To a creature whose every instinct tells her that she is most valuable for procreation, the act itself must feel like she has been robbed of every sense of worth, at least for a few moments.

Ironic that the more women are told they are good at manly things the more they want to inspire the death sentence for pulling pigtails.

This is actually evidence that women have difficulty coping with the world in which they are strong and independent. Something just doesn't make sense if they need all this protection in lieu of a man (and some conservative restriction), but to spot the obvious they would have to disentangle themselves of the string of pious gratifying bullshit that sounds so good and right.

Rumplestiltskin, you have to assess your lot in life and come to terms with reality. If you would be happier in a traditional marriage and little ones to raise, than alone in your 40s, maybe consider going for a more homely girl? Many women do go to school with the intention of finding a husband, whether they say it or not. Maybe if you date enough of them (and stop focusing on MRA issues as I assume you aren't about to propose) you could talk to them enough to see if their expectations are unrealistic.

I read a story about an Arab dude who pity dated some girl twice his size for 4 years when she cried after he f**ked her, because the other guys she had sex with left immediately to never return. The Arab was disgusted during the act itself but he was a virgin with strict parents until so he went through with the sex. He cheated on her whenever he got the chance. From the details in the story it was evident that she straight up propositioned her previous partners in hopes of something more and got burned repeatedly. Imagine the self-harm she'd done to her psyche by reaching for something out of her grasp.

[PLEASUREMAN]

the divorce laws are lagging indicators (of social liberalization, androgynous culture, hedonism), you don't make people more moral by passing a law, you need to make more radical changes than that, you have to address root causes

[Rumpleshitskin]

I know what the root cause is and there's probably no way I can do anything about it until the rest of the country is ready.  Do you honestly think i support social liberalization, androgynous culture, or hedonism?

[Ske1etonjelly]

The causes can be broken down and applied on an individual scale. Women outnumber men in terms of population (that's a huge deal), and in terms of viable mates, so many guys are f**king idiots that a) think they can get free vagina forever or b) think they have to trick their girl into giving it up or get lucky when she feels like it.

If you know this and are strongly aware that you are the best a woman can do, it will manifest itself in your relationship with her

Pman is saying, like Ghandi    , you must be the change you hope to see in the world.

[Rumpleshitskin]

pretty sure there's plenty of people already trying to do that and it doesn't seem to be working.  Not sure what else they need to do though.  Plus, India was probably a lot less multicultural than the U.S (just whites and Indians, unless they introduced other races to f**k things up). Even if you could get the white people to unite behind you, what about the muds?

[Ske1etonjelly]

Well now I feel like a cunt for so much unsolicited helpful advice, but if you can't feel comfortable or "safe" in a relationship, then I would suggest that it's a confidence issue.

EDIT: (I edit every post) I know you're talking about far down the road, so am I

[Rumpleshitskin]

These guys getting taken to the cleaners are smarter, more disciplined, and generally better than I am.  Should I feel confident?

[President Jacob Zima]

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

These guys getting taken to the cleaners are smarter, more disciplined, and generally better than I am.  Should I feel confident?

No.

[PLEASUREMAN]

it's true divorce is a bad thing and some married people face it, but the risk is easily avoided by remaining forever alone and taking solace in a man cave funded with money saved by not going to restaurants or buying presents

[Who Runs Barter Town?!?]

[Frontier]

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 12:36 PM, said:

So what the f**k would you suggest, get married anyway, spend 5 years trying to make it work until my wife files for divorce, get blamed for her abandoning me and taking the kids with her, and spend the rest of my life working 2 jobs trying to pay whatever insane amount of maintenance the judge decides is "fair" and get sent to prison if I can't afford to pay it?

Do you want kids or not?  That's the question.  If you don't want kids, don't get married.  It's that simple, end of issue for you.  Get a vasectomy, find a squeeze and enjoy life until the Alzheimer's starts taking over.  Then, at that point, you might want to consider a 9 mm exit.  YMMV.

Now, if you want kids, then you'll simply have to suck it up and take the risk.  You don't get another round at this life, and you're not going to change family law anytime soon.  The good news is that you can find decent women.  Also, once you factor out multiple divorces, you have a 70% chance of not divorcing.  Those odds go up with education.  If you have a good job and can hold back on the extra expenses, you should marry a woman who wants to stay home with the kids (pro tip: most actually want to do this!).  Once she's home with kids, she's very, very unlikely to want to give that up.  At that point you have to work actively at getting her to divorce you.  Again, life is not a box of chocolates for most divorced women.  Even with spousal support they can almost never make ends meet, and they have to get up and go to jobs.  They know this, or are quickly clued in from observing the fate of friends and family who divorce.  The idea that women are succubi lying in wait, eager to ambush you with a divorce come year five is fantasy.

[Rumpleshitskin]

If it's a fantasy then why does the electric jew encourage them to do exactly that?

Anyway, 30% chance doesn't sound too good considering how many divorced men take the 9mm exit (or in some cases the gasoline exit).  No way a minor inconvenience would make them want to do that.

Also, did PMAN come up with the thread title?  Because the real issue I have is with s**t like judicial lynch mobs and men's tax dollars being used to subsidize single mothers, not Why won't Megan go out with meeeee?

[Frontier]

Rumpleshitskin, on 30 July 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

If it's a fantasy then why does the electric jew encourage them to do exactly that?

I don't know where the "electric jew" exactly does that? Seriously, what show has valorized divorcees since One Day at a Time?  The life of a female divorcee sucks for the most part, and women know it.

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Anyway, 30% chance doesn't sound too good considering how many divorced men take the 9mm exit (or in some cases the gasoline exit).  No way a minor inconvenience would make them want to do that.

There are number of things you can do beyond this to reduce the chances of a bad divorce: education, family background, etc.  A lot of this is common sense.  You're letting yourself get scared by one-off events and Internet legends.  Will life be devoid of risk? No, it never really has been.  So what do you want to do about it?

[小林剣]